An interview with Giovanna Cerise
Giovanna Cerise
Bryn Oh: Where are you
from? And who are the most renowned (not
necessarily the best) artists from your
country in your opinion?
Giovanna Cerise: I live in Italy, and currently I teach Italian
and Latin Literature in a high school. I have joined to my liberal arts
studies, the musical studies by studying classical guitar and musical Paleography. So for a long time music has been
my main activity. My passion for virtual art has filled the emptiness left in
me from having abandoned it. Making a choice of famous artists in the world is
very difficult, in a country like Italy, where you breathe art in every corner:
those who have left an important, indelible trace are so many. So it is an
impossible task for me to choose the names. I will indicate randomly the ones
that come immediately to my mind, forgetting certainly many. Dante Alighieri, Luigi Pirandello, Dario Fo, Eugenio Montale, Umberto
Eco, Umberto Boccioni, Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, Amedeo Modigliani and
again Giacomo Puccini, Giuseppe Verdi, Edoardo De Filippo, Luciano Pavarotti,
Federico Fellini, Roberto Rossellini, Paul Sorrentino but Marcello Mastroianni,
Anna Magnani, Monica Vitti ... and I could go on forever.
Bryn Oh: Often the average person outside SL is perplexed with virtual worlds in
general. When people unfamiliar with the
virtual ask you what you do how do you explain it?
Arythmos |
Giovanna Cerise: I confess that until recently I had problems
speaking about my experience in SL, first because I myself found difficult, in
defining it. When I tried to explain that I was taking a course in virtual
didatics, around me I saw quizzical expressions, mainly because others did not
understand what a virtual world had in common with the work I was doing. With time
the situation has not improved much. Now, to those who ask me questions, I
present my experience by trying to show them
all the possibilities that it have opened to me and how it has enriched me.
Bryn Oh: Who are a few of your
favorite artists and why?
Frida Kahlo |
Giovanna Cerise: Many of the artists that I have already named
are among my favorites. In general I am attracted to artists who are able to
express their innovative point of view, those who dig deep and have the courage
to show their more hidden world. . . The works of these artists are
"listening" and they seek to connect our inner with the piece of the
world that we have in front. I love
Frida Kahlo and her intense works, full of strength, sensitivity, passion. I
like the large metal sculptures of Arnoldo Pomodoro, his perfectly geometric
forms with a highly polished surface, torn with cracks and openings that expose
a shaggy interior, fraught with reliefs. And yet Anish Kapoor and his
monumental, surprising, disturbing and problematic installations. Alberto Burri
and Lucio Fontana, who question the system of values and certainties and
invite you to investigate further. And then of course there are the musicians,
and I name Bach among all of them, an exceptional personality, whos work is
both poetry and science t. To these other should be added like Hermann Hesse,
Luigi Pirandello, Italo Svevo and Eugenio Montale. Many, then, are the artists
of virtual worlds by whom even if for different reasons I am affected. I want
to mention some of the works: "der Schauer" of Selavy Oh, Transition
Zone of Oberon Onmura, Imogen and Pigeon of Bryn Oh, "Taxy! To the Zircus
" of Eupalinos Ugajin, Black and White World of Cica Ghost, The Inevitable
of Fate of Rose Borchovski, Sparkys of Romy Nayar, Celebrity Blow Your Tits Off
Rides Again of Maya Paris , Imago Anatopism of Alpha Auer, Bogon Flux of Blotto
Epsilon and Cutea Benelli …
Anish Kapoor |
Bryn Oh: Whose artwork do you
personally dislike the most and why?
Arithmos |
Giovanna Cerise: More than indicating precise names, I am not
normally attracted to those works that, as we say in Italy, are "Tutto
fumo e niente arrosto," works in which the author only seeks the
spectacular effect, trying to cover the complete absence of any content, in the
worst cases, and, at best, give a vague idea of a general concept where they trivially
put in anything that has to do with it at
the moment. I feel a mental laziness inability to empathetically envolve
the observer in an authentic manner, touching only the emotional surface l with
a cluster or a juxtaposition of elements that should inspire wonder, but, at
the end they just get bored, for their repetition, which at the end to nothing
more than to slip epidermically.
Bryn Oh: Which of your own
works are you most proud of? Do you feel
any failed and if so do you now know why?
Kaos, Kosmos |
Giovanna Cerise: Among the works that I like most there are
those of the last period and I refer to the installations as Arithmos, Fisicofollia, Cosmos
and kaos and Speculum. I am particularly tied to the "Habanera"
inspired by Bizet's Carmen and to smaller works like "Broken Time"
and "The hidden purity". Usually I am never happy with the work I
have just finished. My first temptation is to destroy them immediately. Luckily
I can resist. I'm pretty critical of what I do and often, then reviewing some
works in the past which seemed “exceptional” at that time, I say myself
"But it is really bad", especially when I detect a sweetning or
winking effect.
Bryn Oh: Do you have a method
when creating? If so how does it often progress? For example do you sketch or write out ideas
first for weeks or do you perhaps just jump directly into the project with
little planning and adapt as you go?
Overlaps |
Giovanna Cerise: For a long time I felt the need, which then
became a habit, to write down in a notebook those words, phrases, images, musical references
that have impressed me in a positive or negative way. The book has become a
treasure chest of sensations and concepts, almost inexhaustible. It becomes a
kind of latent memory from which often unconsciously, and for various reasons,
an idea emerges. Sometimes the idea is so clear that it is immediately
transformed into an image and the work of creation becomes fast and immediate.
Other times I let an idea subside for a
long time, which expands like a spider web. Often I proceed through a symbolic
research. And when I arrive to what I think is the best, I start to remove the superfluous,
the repetitions, the distortions, trying to synthesize the whole. In practice
can be summarized in a job of expansion and synthesis, which I can be repeated several times, and that is
accompanied by mental images of the transposition of ideas. The work of
concretization is never very long, but it is intense. I try to concentrate it
when I know I'm free from other tasks, because it absorbs all my energy
becoming almost compulsive. In a few days what I had done before on a mental
level is repeated. I collect objects, I work with prim or Blender. I empty the
inventory looking for something that maybe I built some time before. I create
texture. I move, I change, I look from various angles and, above all, I
experiment, until I am convinced, until I arrive to the version that will be
visible, but I may not be definite.
Bryn Oh: What are you currently
reading, listening to or looking at to inspire your work?
Speculum |
Giovanna Cerise: Right now I'm reading "The birth of the Greek tragedy" by Friedrich Nietzscke. In
addition to Bach, who, as I said, is my favourite author, I'm listening to
"Tristan and Isolde" by Richard Wagner and some songs of Queen.
Bryn Oh: Does your work have an
overall theme and if so what might that be?
If not please describe how you tend to pick your topics.
Giovanna Cerise: There is not a general theme that inspires me,
but, almost all my works I thing you can find a tension that reveal the
relationship between unity and duality, which then often becomes that of
multiplicity. And of course, we can still include the randomness and
determinism and the fragmentary. To these general concepts I add my fondness
for music that becomes a source of inspiration, not only when I work on a
musical work, but also for the disposition of space, whether symmetrical or asymmetrical,
and for all that can be connected to rhythm or harmony (assonance, dissonances,
repetitions, pauses, etc.). There is a theme that then I particularly feel which concerns the violence, especially against
women, and oppression in all its forms.
Bryn Oh: Have you ever had to
deal with negative publicity or a disappointing rejection of your artwork? How do you deal with it?
The hidden purity |
Giovanna Cerise: Not many times, but sometimes, it has happened,
that someone has criticized some of my choices about effects, believed as excessive,
or some color, saying that it would be better if I had used another. Another
time offering my work for an event I was asked to change it by inserting some
textures that were supposed to make, from the point of view of the customer, my
work closer to the event. I refused and I was invited to take away my job. How
did I react? I continued to use excessive effects, when I thought it
appropriate, to use the colors I wanted and withdrawing the work, excluding
other possibilities of collaboration with those I had requested the work. This
does not mean that I do not accept criticism, It is natural and even necessary. It
is useful not so much for the work already done, but when it makes me think about what I will do after, words especially
if it highlights something that I had
not considered before.
But it is also true that when the artist
creates, he has the right and the duty to choose, accepting all the
consequences of this choice.
Instead I don’t take in consideration that
criticism that based on preconceptions that become rules to be respected at all
costs and that become the parameters of the work itself.
Bryn Oh: Would you like to take
a stab at explaining what defines virtual art?
The variations of the magic flute |
Giovanna Cerise: It’s difficult to give a definition, even if I
can try and probably I will not dodge the stab. We can begin by saying that
virtual art is one of the possible paths which an artist may choose to
undertake in our time. Precisely for this reason, however, it can become a need
or requirement because we are immersed in a society where technology
development is due to changes in the way we think and act, to the
transformation of each type of language and perception . It is a path that has
in itself infinite potentialities that have become active only partially, and
therefore it opens up a fervent scenario of not simple but difficult
perspectives. It constantly uses the testing of new methods and techniques,
sometimes incorporating the traditional ones and amplifying the combination of
art and technology. It is not an easy path for many reasons, some reasons are
certainly strong, due to the reluctance of the majority of people, who belong
or don’t belong to the sector, towards this type of art, but also to the
shallowness which unfortunately sometimes is found in those who do this kind of
art, and which is manifested in various ways. (Perhaps the stab has come ...)
Bryn Oh: What would you say
makes virtual creations unique over other art forms?
Fisicofollia, image by Kikas Babenco |
Giovanna Cerise: Even here it is difficult to give a clear
answer. Many terms were used to define the virtual creations: immersivity,
interactivity, interconnectedness, complexity, constant change of perspective, presence
of more and different sides, break down barriers of all kinds, multimedia, ability
to be replicated, and even the unfinished ... Perhaps we can say that its
uniqueness lies in the potential that the artist can use at the same time and
in the same space all or many of these elements, pouring into this form of art all
the features and problems of our age.
Bryn Oh: Centuries ago there
was no such thing as an "artist" just craftsmen, as time progressed
superior technical ability and creativity created the elite "Master"
artist whose work stood recognized above all others. In 1917 Marcel Duchamp submitted a work
entitled "Fountain" to the Society of Independent artists. He stated "... He (the artist) CHOSE
it. He took an article of life, placed it so that its useful significance
disappeared under the new title and point of view – created a new thought for
that object" He wanted to shift the
focus away from technical craft to more of an aesthetic intellectual
interpretation. Some say that because of
him almost everything is considered art today.
From an elephant painting with its trunk, a Banksy, a child's drawing to
someone vomiting paint onto a canvas.
What is your perspective on this?
Marcel Duchamp |
Giovanna Cerise: The choice of Duchamp to use, without
modification, of a profane object to bring out the cultural development of an
object not depending on his artistic transformation, was certainly a source of
discussion, poignant and often innovative, especially for the period when it
was formulated. I think this placed the artist face to face with the choice,
which often is not free because it is conditioned by external and internal
factors, to take the path of Duchamp or the "traditional" one, with
all the implications that this entails. In both cases, the choice itself can
not be separated from the creative purpose that arises from the artist and his
mental and conceptual processing. You can not, on the other hand, say that the
technical skill is never important. Sometimes I think it is also essential. If
we shift the focus from the visual arts to music or dance, for example, I can not think
(but maybe that's my limit) of how you can do this kind of art if you do not
have a certain technique and a certain knowledge. The artist, perhaps, then
reaches higher goals when he most manages to hide his technique. (On the other
hand I must say that the acquisition of techniques, experimenting new ones, at
least for me, is also a source of pleasure, of game and a way to clear the mind
and show better ideas).
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