tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post6608671997708539970..comments2024-01-16T06:14:42.330-05:00Comments on Bryn Oh: "Obedience" an artwork opening at the Jüdisches Museum in BerlinBryn Ohhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10649767662883786382noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-32123078740826431532015-05-25T17:07:20.363-04:002015-05-25T17:07:20.363-04:00If, when Ebola spread through Africa, faith were l...If, when Ebola spread through Africa, faith were left out if it then there would have been very few to take care of the sick and dying. I am sad to say that I would not be brave enough to travel into such a horrifying environment, yet those with faith can and their empathy made the world a better place in this instance. I personally am not religious, but having said that I am able to see that there are positive and negative aspects to religion and faith. Religious extremism is a type of insanity perhaps, but it is not accurate to paint entire religions with a broad brush to the effect that Religion=bad. I don't feel threatened by discussing religion to the extent that the artistic ideas should be censored. Bryn Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649767662883786382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-66245786752736440272015-05-25T13:17:49.462-04:002015-05-25T13:17:49.462-04:00It is always best to leave faith out of it. Histor...It is always best to leave faith out of it. History tells us as much:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/opinion/sunday/defending-the-faith-in-the-middle-east.html<br />Apmelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05093833232784078723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-62031183327712022832015-05-25T06:19:21.401-04:002015-05-25T06:19:21.401-04:00This exhibition and the subject (and I have been t...This exhibition and the subject (and I have been there, in the virtual part ) is in fact very modern and less religious in first place. One does not need to know about the original text, because it is self explaining it to you.<br />It questions you, questions who you are.<br />You personal. <br /><br />What position do you take,which decisions do you make, what about your own obedience? What are you doing , because you got told to, how much of it would you do, if not told to? <br /><br />It can be shocking, it can shake you up, it can make you perpetrator, co-perpetrator, victim and all that same time. Or it makes you a neutral observer. But are those neutrals, in fact, not co-perpetrator and/or victims, too?<br /><br />And the sweet side effect : For those not firm with the 'holy books' - they get to learn about that part. <br /><br />I sincerely hope that the RL part of the exhibition does wander.Alrunia Ahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10219790415612792996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-27122166800845291142015-05-24T08:35:25.414-04:002015-05-24T08:35:25.414-04:00Someone need to calm down (and keep reading mickey...Someone need to calm down (and keep reading mickey mouse magazine). It's clearly not a religious thing, but anything related to obedience anyone can imagine. Personally, I prefer to see it as a metaphor for the Greek economical drama: the political obedience which media are telling the Greek Government to show to -mostly- German authorities (under that view it's funny the rl exhibition is in Berlin) and the need of Abraham (Greek prime minister) to give explanations to Isaak (the Greek people) for the heavy (economical) sacrifices to come. Of cource, another person can see it completely differently. That's the beauty of art. Freedom to perspective and interpretation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862854423404191092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-52407660891077845182015-05-23T23:22:03.214-04:002015-05-23T23:22:03.214-04:00Alas, Apmel, those who are uninterested in the his...Alas, Apmel, those who are uninterested in the history of their culture -- let alone others' -- are condemned to stare at their own navels, believing it to be the omphalos of the universe, with nothing of value beyond it.<br /><br />Good build, Bryn (and Jo), I'm sure I'll visit it several times.Dividni Shostakovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134699729838873403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-47556201758889317692015-05-23T15:08:31.973-04:002015-05-23T15:08:31.973-04:00Well you see the work is not telling the story fro...Well you see the work is not telling the story from the Bible like it is something we should know about. It is re-imagining the story under a different filter from which we can view it which perhaps changes the clarity. And the idea is to see if that tells a new story or causes us to reexamine the old story. Bryn Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649767662883786382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-75845692830440450392015-05-23T14:20:33.849-04:002015-05-23T14:20:33.849-04:00Oh, I wasn't criticising the art work. As you ...Oh, I wasn't criticising the art work. As you said I haven't seen it. It was your telling the story from the bible like it was something that one should know about (life is too short for that silliness) that got me agitated this time :)Apmelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05093833232784078723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-40749547869374035412015-05-23T13:53:32.131-04:002015-05-23T13:53:32.131-04:00I saw you say something like that months ago too A...I saw you say something like that months ago too Ampel. Your comments are made without actually seeing the work or knowing from what perspective the work takes. It is not a simple retelling of the story but rather something meant to question blind obedience, insecurity and the various other things not normally associated with this story. I personally don't mind whether you go see it or not, but often in order to criticise something effectively you actually have to go see it first. In addition, beyond the subject matter, if you are interested in the medium as a new artform then there are various artistic elements, advancements and techniques used that are worth taking note of.. if on the other hand these things don't interest you either then for sure don't go see it. Bryn Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649767662883786382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-944516208447810948.post-58750070759253823432015-05-23T12:50:12.123-04:002015-05-23T12:50:12.123-04:00What would make this art deserving spending time o...What would make this art deserving spending time over for modern people that has since a couple of generations left the ridiculous 2000 year old book religions behind as a cultural phenomenon? I had this discussion with Saskia a long time ago. She claimed our identities are in part connected to those stories, but I explained to her that in my case and many others in my generation our identities are much more affected by Disney than those old books. Since then she calls me Donald :)Apmelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05093833232784078723noreply@blogger.com